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their normal lifespan my animals didn't

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live their normal lifespan they lived

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the ones that were treated live

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significantly longer than the controls

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but none of them lived a normal life

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span this is to my mind a really

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remarkable finding and I was

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particularly impressed by the fact that

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again here was an inflammatory reaction

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taking place in the healing process and

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knowing that they were similar mice it

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was fairly easy to assume that the basic

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or common functioning principle taking

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place between bills work as a healer and

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my work using the accumulator was this

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and it was reasonable also to a cinema

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although this can certainly provide a

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great deal of of stimulus or future

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research easy to assume that something

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common is taking place in the

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accumulator and in the healing process

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that bill is using now I mentioned

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before that those of us using these

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accumulators have no idea that intention

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was involved but since working in the

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field with Bob John and Brenda done and

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seeing bills work I'm convinced that an

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intentional factors involved in the work

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with the accumulators and the way I like

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to understand this thing is to use

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what's going on and provide a possible

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model for future work is the m5 model

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that Bob John and Brenda done developed

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out of their work with intention on

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human beings now just for those of you

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who don't know this model this is a

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model of consciousness and we have here

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consciousness as we all know it that is

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cut the ability to perceive oneself and

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act out of one's perceptions the

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unconscious mind this is an event which

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takes place in the external world and

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this is called the tangible physical

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reality by them and this is the

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intangible physical reality and give you

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a little bit more of the anatomy of this

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it's considered that when intention is

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in action that there's a stimulation at

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some very deep level of the organism

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where how what I can't say but at some

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deep level of the organism and this

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stimulates a reaction in consciousness

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through the unconscious into

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consciousness and through the intangible

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physical reality to the physical

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eleanii and they utilize this model to

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help explain as best they can how the

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average person can influence a random

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event generator from with their mind

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alone either sitting in front of it or

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being thousands of miles away now where

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this comes into play in my thinking

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about the material i just presented to

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you is that oh by the way one other

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thing is that there is this a place of

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confluence between the unconscious mind

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an intangible physical reality now what

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is intangible physical reality it's a

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sub structure under lives our tangible

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physical reality and we don't know very

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much about it many kinds of things been

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postulated this is the place where the

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vacuum energy lives this is spur prana

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exists chi rex oregon and so forth we

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know or at least i'm pretty sure that

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there is such an arena or domain of

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existence which underlies our physical

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reality there is no way to explain most

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of the phenomena that we know that

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emerge into physical reality through

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from a certain kind of background and we

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know about this in the vacuum energy

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they talk about a ground from whence

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these virtual particles emerge but

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nobody talks very much about the nature

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of that ground but it's accepted now

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what I'm postulating is that this is

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this is the place that is being

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activated by intention when your healer

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and it moves in this way into the object

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which one is healing now

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I describe two different kinds of

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experiments one in which there's

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intentional loan and the other where you

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have this so-called accumulator of

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energy and there is no known intention

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taking place but what I submit is that

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there is intention taking place and in

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the accumulator experiment it's being

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magnified tremendously by the

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accumulator which is functioning on the

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intangible physical level and that's why

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we could get such dramatic effects in

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our cancer mice the compared to that

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bill is using primarily intention but if

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Reich is right or there is Chi there is

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prana there is a same thing in tangible

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level then that is being activated by

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the healer to produce the effect on the

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animals and that effect primarily

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whether using accumulate or not is one

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of an inflammatory reaction now how come

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you have an inflammatory reaction that's

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the next biggie the big question the

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interesting question of course I don't

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know the answer to that at this point

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but I submit that probably what you're

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getting is a total organismic reaction

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and that involves a an effect on the

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immune system and that produces this

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enhanced inflammatory reaction so I

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mentioned all of this just as a means of

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providing some kind of framework for

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those people who want to do some work on

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I didn't have a chance to read this

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library large in new plan I'm very small

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in radians I can't come till I to

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understand why you think the

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accumulators bring any cost

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at all we could see Brett the human

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it is a good point what we you have to

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do to test that it seems to me is to

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have people work with an accumulator not

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knowing what it was and apply attempt to

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apply intention towards the animals do

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another experiment in which he started

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there was no binding appointments with

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effects were rightly further than some

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of these can follow up on students one

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of the students so jeiza mayor who is a

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member of our society recently did a

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several years study demonstrating the

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fact that within an accumulator the

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temperature is always higher than the

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surrounding air or control excuse me can

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they fit into their probably but I

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haven't thought that much about it it

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certainly would be would support the

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whole idea of this intangible physical

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reality because these kinds of effects

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are extremely anomalous they just don't